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Raps Suck in the Swamp and Drop Below .500 in the East

Posted by eastcoastrapsfan on April 6, 2008

Toronto Raptors 90, New Jersey Nets 99

Well that was even worse. How do we keep laying eggs like this? We give up easy baskets and play pretend D, you know the kind that’s just enough to make it look like your getting out to a shooter but not really. Never put a decent foul on anyone. Carter came back to play, just to stick it to us and blows kisses to the fans at home, and we don’t put any lumber on him. They put a small on Bosh because they figured out he can’t really dominate if he’s not being fouled be a slower player. And the smaller guy can still get him off his spots. Frank, pwns Sam, frankly. And Sam hates it. He goes off like in post game interview like a man about to break. Who could blame him? It’s obvious the cookie jar is bare. It sounds like as far as he’s concerned he was given a team of jump shooters who can’t hit jump shots. He may have a point. Even If Sam is a problem, he’s far form the only one. But it also seemed like Jersey was a step ahead and knew exactly how to play us. There’s a reason they got their looks and we didn’t and it’s because they were better prepared. When Bargs was in they adjusted. They couldn’t stop Rasho, who again was awesome but they planned for everyone else, and had them covered. It was sad but refreshing to hear coach Frank talk about a pre planned adjustment based on the opposing personal. It’s so much better that the “if you think your so much better then me go talk to the fifteen teams not in the playoffs”.

When Bosh went out Rasho filled in for him and he hasn’t given the conch back yet. Rasho’s has been awesome; Bosh has not been impressive when it counts and was uncharacteristically bad from the line tonight. He looks shook and he looks tired. His numbers are misleading in this game. However he could have had a triple double if we could make shots.

On to the Game:

We started the first quarter playing bad defense. Nets shoot 65% in the first.

Raps come out in the second with the white wash. I’m sure it did a lot for the spirits of the NBA’s minority’s, but it didn’t do a whole lot for the score board. The bench sucked tonight. Bargs took only three shots, yet manage to make one of them the worst of all time. Jose had four fouls at the half. Delfino was taking bad shots, and Kapono…well…

Another first half with no threes. That’s not Raps Basketball. It makes it hurt even worse given how bad we are at defending the three point line. We need the three’s to help off set that, but we couldn’t make shats.

3rd Quarter and Chuck rings it up from Fredericton, NB. I’m thinking it’s me, but it’s not. Just add it to the disappointment.

4th Quarter, cue the meltdown. Nothing out of the ordinary. We just play bad basketball. Bad defense, miss threes and look foolish and cause the watching audience at home to question our desire and manhood. But it’s the NBA so the beauty is there’s always another game. Wonderful. Can’t wait. Eventually we will get some bad team who’s already out, who rests everybody, and get a W and we can go on to pretending like we aren’t a team that sucks in the crunch and can’t adjust or find its identity. That’s what Sam and Bosh think the team needs. A W. I think they need to start playing and planning better, but whatever. I always hated that, there’s always another game line. it’s a mentality that obviously does not bode well for playoff success. They will only have three tries to use that line the playoffs though. Will Sam freak in his interview if we’re swept, there’s a reason to watch.

Next time you get that Salami and Cheese from the fridge, think twice about eating it. It’s been in there for a while now.


I’m out.



  • Bosh is not matching his rhetoric. He should shut up until he plays better.
  • Bargs, awful. He only took three shots; looked like he didn’t want to take any.
  • Rasho was awesome. Again.
  • Are we reaping what we sow with Carter, should we have just ignored him when he left?
  • Carter is a catch 22. We hated him because he didn’t always play hard. Now he hates us, so he plays hard against us….
  • RJ, again, just does whatever he wants. Prances all over us with no recourse.
  • Something is up with this team.
  • We’re lucky the rest of the East has been so bad, because we could easily have been on the outside of the playoffs.
  • It took a long time but they managed to suck all the fun out of being a raps fan.
  • I doubt BC sits on his hands.

19 Responses to “Raps Suck in the Swamp and Drop Below .500 in the East”

  1. Andiamo said

    i wonder if this is just a coincidence but,this team has been a goddamn mess since tj came back and pulled his 7 minutes without passing the ball routine.

  2. FAQ said

    ^^^ Andiamo ^^^ …. Exactly my impression too .. bringing back tj seems to have busted team cohesiveness even though tj may be playing well.

    Is having two PGs with very different styles to their games a wise thing to have, and expecting the other 4 players on the court to instantly adjust ?? Does this group of players have the basketball smarts to change strategies when the PGs are changed??

    Sometimes it works and at other times it flops. Who is to blame ??

  3. cuzzy said

    I am not going to say the T.J. thing is not a problem but I think the Raps need to simply look at their D…..they don’t have any.

    They can score but if you have hard nose D as your back bone like the Celtics or Pistons etc. you can still won on nights when you suck at shooting.

    They don’t have any glue on D or anyone who can lock down. Say what you will about Mo Pete (I miss him) but at least he tried to play D.

    Everyone says AP and Delfino are strong defenders…I am not so sure anymore. They do it for 1 out of 5 games.

    Defense is not about talent, it is about effort and pride and hard work. Toronto is not doing that at all.

    Knock someone on their ass, shake up a game.

    In hockey a giant body check or fight can turn the game around and hype a team.

    Watching the final four it is great to see how teams rally around big plays and show emotion and try til they die.

    I know NCAA and NBA are different but if you truly don’t want to win, you are going to go home.

    I don’t even care if the Raps win another game, I want to see them try and lay it all out there.

    Last year’s team did that, they worked their ass off and the city embraced them.

    This team goes through the motions like they are entitled to something.

    it really pisses me off.

  4. […] – Arsenalist […]

  5. Raps Fan said

    “Next time you get that Salami and Cheese from the fridge, think twice about eating it. It’s been in there for a while now.”

    lol, that was the best thing to come out of the game last night. its gold man!

    i commend your dedication, i haven’t been able to spit out a decent article in weeks, its hard to come up with different ways of saying the raptors suck, and why they suck.

  6. Dinosty said

    Great guest post my man. Just wanted to say you were spot on about two things:

    “Even If Sam is a problem, he’s far from the only one”

    We can whine about Sam because its easy, but its just one of MANY deficiencies we have.

    “I don’t even care if the Raps win another game, I want to see them try and lay it all out there.”

    Something. Give me SOMETHING. Such a soft group of muffincakes…do we have the least technical fouls in the league? Where do I find this stat?

  7. eastcoastrapsfan said

    Thank Dinosty, but I can’t take credit for that second quote, that was from Cuzzy.

  8. coach said

    will the raps continue to slip deeper ? that’s the question.

  9. FAQ said

    Watching Dallas beating the Suns in Phoenix on Sunday .. I just cannot help but fantacize how much somebody like TJ Ford could help the Suns, and fit in fantastically behind Nash. Ford for Barbosa would help both teams .. and if BC could also shake loose Diaw and Giricik for say Kapono and others … because the Suns really need another 3-point shooter, and PGs like Nash and Ford could really set Kapono up in that system.

    Maybe after the playoffs in the off-season … you heard it here first .. I wish ..!!!

  10. Raps Fan said

    dinosty, the raptors have 9 technical fouls on the season, here is the breakdown:

    mitchell 2
    ford 3

    i ever 9 games or so. if that doesnt spell passion, i don’t know what does.

  11. khandor said

    re: Something is up with this team.

    The word you are looking for is spelled like this,

    “I m p l o s i o n.”

    I believe FLUX is familiar with its meaning.

    re: I doubt BC sits on his hands.

    Bryan Colangelo is the person who is RESPONSIBLE for creating this situation, in the first place.

    re: will the raps continue to slip deeper ? that’s the question.

    By this point, unfortunately … the answer is self-evident.

    There is NO WAY a GM like Steve Kerr would ever, ever, ever … ever … trade Leandro Barbosa for TJ Ford.

    (and it’s ridiculous to suggest that he would)

  12. FLUXLAND said

    I’ve stayed away from this blog cuz I couldn’t stand the constant flip flopping of alleged “fans” that comment on here.. one day Sam is the Anti Christ and so is TJ the next day they are saviors. People change their convictions based on the previous games results. It’s sickening quite frankly. I’ll refrain from naming anyone…mostly because I feel the majority of the posters are between 12 and 17 and because a lot of them are closet hockey fans that jumped on the Raps bandwagon for some reason or another or discovered basketball last year and now consider themselves “experts” who lack insight or knowledge of the game. Just read some of the comments on this post. UNREAL! Not to mention how they finally see the light about things some of us have been pointing to for months.

    Although I do appreciate Arsenalist and Khandor and their respective POV.

    As much as I’d like to get into details about the Raps situation, I won’t, but I will touch on a few things.

    This team lacks accountability. The OakMan would not put up with this and CB4 can try and play that role but he’s not that dude. His Franchise tag is wearing off fast and he will never take us to the promised land. I’ll stop short of calling for a trade but he won’t resign here .. rest assured.

    The rest of the team with the exception of TJ are a bunch of YMCA bench warmers. Parker, Kapono and Delfino need to go. They make me sick… Parker is the worst..I don’t think I’ve seen anyone miss this many “needed” buckets.

    FAQ… I dunno when you are going to give up the TJ for Diaw and someone else dream.. that will never happen. I don’t even know how you came up with that.. you have posted that 1000 times and it makes no sense any way you put it.

    Yes, K! The Implosion! Jose is being the disgruntled PG now.. much like TJ was and until one of them accepts their faith.. the rest of the team is screwed.

    BC…I’m not ready to put it on him just yet. Players win games not GMs or coaches.

  13. khandor said

    re: BC…I’m not ready to put it on him just yet. Players win games not GMs or coaches.

    … and, in the NBA … it’s the GM who chooses the players for his team.

    The accountability chain SHOULD start …

    1st … with Tanenbaum & Peddie
    2nd … with Colangelo (& Co.)
    3rd … Mitchell
    4th … the players

  14. FLUXLAND said

    SHOULD… but it doesn’t

    1st (more or less) pays your contract
    2nd surrounds you with players you should succeed with
    3rd babysits you


    In my humble limited opinion (not being involved in the day to day operations of an NBA team)

    Khandor, do you blame you boss when you mess up? (assuming you have one) Only a few ELITE players have that luxury.. the rest perform or get traded.. simple as that, no?

  15. khandor said


    Please be aware that I did not say …

    the players should blame 3, 2 or 1

    nor that the coach should blame 4, 2 or 1
    nor that the the GM should blame 4, 3 or 1
    nor that Tanenbaum & Peddie should blame 4, 3, or 2.

    What I said is that the accountability chain SHOULD start with 1 then go down-the-line to 2, 3 and, finally, 4.

    There’s a big difference.

    re: do you blame you boss when you mess up? (assuming you have one)

    Better questions would be:

    Does my boss hold him/herself accountable first (at all?) … when/if I mees up?

    Do our patrons/customers hold my boss accountable for my poor performance?

  16. khandor said


    1) Btw, here’s a link for you to satiate your curiosity …

    2) And, speaking of accountability …

    Are you familiar with the story of the great Chinese Warlord, his two most favourite concubines, and the training of his army?

  17. khandor said

    If not … know that you SHOULD be.

  18. FLUXLAND said

    I suppose that would depend on your personal views/ethics.

    I guess I come from the school of thought where you and only you are accountable for you actions/performance. NO EXCUSES.

    In my book to say that 1 2 and 3 are accountable for the team performance on the floor night in and night out is not acceptable.

    After all no one forced any of those players to sign those contracts and play here. That was their choice.. now they fail to perform and we should blame management?

    If your boss expected a certain level of performance when he agreed (performance that you claimed to be capable of) to hire you and then you fail to perform at that level.. I don’t see how that is on him.

    I mean who gets canned first 9/10 times? The employee or employer(or members of management)

    Patrons/customers usually blame the front line of defense – the guy at the counter.
    So, when you go to Burger King (say) and someone messes up your order you get on the phone with Peter Robinson, CEO or are you calling for the head of the mindless moron working behind the counter?

    I don’t think enough time has passed to be calling for BCs head.. a few more Kapono, Antonia Parker and Delfino signings and I’ll jump into that boat.

  19. khandor said


    re: I guess I come from the school of thought where you and only you are accountable for you actions/performance. NO EXCUSES.

    As I asked before, are you familiar with the story of the Great Chinese Warlord, his two favourite concubines and the training of his army?

    LEADERSHIP involves more than only individual accountability.

    PS. If you’re familiar with the Chinese Warlord story you would know already just how ironic your statement is re: a decapitated Bryan Colangelo … ROTFLOL (in a good way)

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